Six years ago, Ange Postecoglou thought he was finished.
So he's not quite sure how he arrived at this point: coaching Australia for the first time.
"I am not sure how I got here," Postecoglou told reporters on Monday.
"But I am here. And it will be a special moment for me."
Six years ago, Postecoglou was sacked as Australia's youth team boss. And it made him feel "unemployable" as a soccer coach.
"That was a very real possibility. That wasn't a throw away line - I was almost unemployable," he said.
"I was wanted more in the media than in the football world.
"But that is football ... you're constantly on trial.
"And I could be back to being unemployable in a couple of years' time, that is the nature of the beast."
Postecoglou will coach the Socceroos for the first time in a friendly against Costa Rica on Tuesday night.
And the Greek-born 48-year-old, who emigrated to Australia as a five-year-old with his parents, said he would savour the experience - if only fleetingly.
"It will be a massive moment," he said.
"There is this clock ticking around me that says to me in six months' time we're going to the biggest show on earth and representing our country (at a World Cup).
"That is always probably the most prevalent thing in my mind.
"But I have got no doubt, when I walk out tomorrow night and the national anthem is played, it will be a special time for me, for sure. And I want to take that in for that moment.
"But then the referee's whistle will blow and it will slap me out of my thoughts.
"And then it's a game of football, and an important game.
"But it is a significant moment for me and hopefully the start of a more exciting journey than what I have been on so far."
Postecoglou denied he was bent on proving people wrong since his youth team sacking.
"All I have done is continue what I started 17, 18 years ago when got my first coaching job," he said.
"I put my heart and soul into everything I do - keep your head down and see where it takes you.
"And it has taken me to some fantastic places so far. And long may it continue."